tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post2619815211389250977..comments2024-02-11T03:50:53.613-05:00Comments on Counterlight's Peculiars: The Education of Harvey MilkUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-36700593012541335572008-11-30T08:18:00.000-05:002008-11-30T08:18:00.000-05:00I remember seeing Cleve Jones in 1989 when he visi...I remember seeing Cleve Jones in 1989 when he visited Berea College in Kentucky at the invitation of the college. He spoke before a large, and very hostile, student assembly in Phelps-Stokes Chapel. I remember him remaining cool as a cucumber and not even changing the tone or volume of his voice as he spoke before an audience of booing and catcalling 19 year olds.Counterlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345956180434795401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-19386836493212121792008-11-29T19:01:00.000-05:002008-11-29T19:01:00.000-05:00I, too, grew up in Northern California, so the Mil...I, too, grew up in Northern California, so the Milk/Moscone murders (and the "White Night" riot that followed Dan White's wrist-slap for the murder, using his "Twinkie Defense") are personal.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps even more personal, though, is what happened to <B>Cleve Jones</B> (portrayed by Emile Hirsch in the movie) a few years later.<BR/><BR/>He moved to Sacramento---my hometown---and was an activist there in the mid-80s. While there, he was <B>brutally gay-bashed</B>, within an inch of his life. The crime got press---but nothing like it would today ("Metro" section of <I>The Bee</I>, not front page).<BR/><BR/>This happened RIGHT around the time I was Coming Out to myself (as bisexual---as I would ID for many years).<BR/><BR/>In even trying to talk about such issues to my parents (w/ whom I was still living at the time), I recall mentioning the Cleve Jones crime to my mom (who hadn't heard about it). "He was nearly killed, just because his attackers thought he was gay"<BR/><BR/>"Well, IS he gay?" my mom responded, crossly.<BR/><BR/>This is probably why I only came out to her, unconscious on her death-bed. :-(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-66372597579531821872008-11-27T07:40:00.000-05:002008-11-27T07:40:00.000-05:00What a lovely thing to say!A very happy holiday to...What a lovely thing to say!<BR/><BR/>A very happy holiday to you, and my gratitude for all your kindness and support!Counterlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345956180434795401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-7146928282989050902008-11-27T07:34:00.000-05:002008-11-27T07:34:00.000-05:00A Different Light! Of course!!I love thinking that...A Different Light! Of course!!<BR/><BR/>I love thinking that we might have met in passing. Isn't life amazing that way?<BR/><BR/>Random and yet - not.<BR/><BR/>Happy Thanksgiving Counterlight. I am grateful to inhabit a world that has you in it. Peace my friend!Franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181529277715646835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-62181463379427263482008-11-27T07:28:00.000-05:002008-11-27T07:28:00.000-05:00FranIam,It was A Different Light Bookstore. I wor...FranIam,<BR/><BR/>It was A Different Light Bookstore. I worked there for awhile after it moved to Chelsea. I still have friends from those years. It died a long slow painful death, though I hear that the San Francisco store clings to life.Counterlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345956180434795401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-410911346069470792008-11-27T00:00:00.000-05:002008-11-27T00:00:00.000-05:00John d'Emilio wrote a short history of US gay and ...John d'Emilio wrote a short history of US gay and lesbian activism, Sexual Politics, Sexual Communities.(or v.v.) Informative and well written.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-1788987877222879942008-11-26T23:58:00.000-05:002008-11-26T23:58:00.000-05:00Funny, I could swear that Frank Kameny got a 5 min...Funny, I could swear that Frank Kameny got a 5 minute ovation at Creating Change a few years ago.<BR/><BR/>I remember hearing about the Milk and Moscone assassination shortly after I graduated from college - I was old enough to remember MLKJr and RFK assassinations clearly, and JFK assassination mostly for seeing adults look upset and astonished. I remember thinking that America was a scary place. <BR/><BR/>NancyPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-77451675846873682882008-11-26T20:14:00.000-05:002008-11-26T20:14:00.000-05:00I was living in San Francisco on that awful horrif...I was living in San Francisco on that awful horrific day.... I have really mixed feelings about going to the movie.it's margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13577280471100732619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-19592023312393584522008-11-26T19:25:00.000-05:002008-11-26T19:25:00.000-05:00I can't wait to see it myself. I have always loved...I can't wait to see it myself. I have always loved Harvey Milk and I remember learning about his death and crying. I always knew a lot of LGBT folks so I guess that is how I knew of Harvey, me living in NY at that time.<BR/><BR/>Ah. The Oscar Wilde Bookstore. I have been there so many times, many, many, many times. It is a piece of history.<BR/><BR/>I am having trouble with my added brain - what was that other bookstore? I can't recall. It was in the village and then moved to Chelsea. Then it closed- that was sad.<BR/><BR/>What was it?<BR/><BR/>Anyway, thank you for this history lesson - I did not know much about Rodlwell.Franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07181529277715646835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-26803284684084354122008-11-26T12:48:00.001-05:002008-11-26T12:48:00.001-05:00(I should add I grew up in the Bay Area so this wa...(I should add I grew up in the Bay Area so this was personal!)IThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-78884939609389209152008-11-26T12:48:00.000-05:002008-11-26T12:48:00.000-05:00Yes, we can't wait for the film, will go with our ...Yes, we can't wait for the film, will go with our good friends (a gay couple). We sometimes laugh that people probably think we are two straight couples when we are out. <BR/><BR/>I was in high school when Milk and Moscone were shot. I have very, very vivid memories of those times, and the riots, and so on....really looking forward to it.<BR/><BR/>I just wish they had released it BEFORE the election.<BR/><BR/>ITIThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-17992538617243859462008-11-26T09:54:00.000-05:002008-11-26T09:54:00.000-05:00I always learn so much from you! Thanks for the ba...I always learn so much from you! Thanks for the backstory on Milk and Rodwell---fascinating stuff.Wormwood's Doxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10882756844690851674noreply@blogger.com