tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post3015062833696743995..comments2024-02-11T03:50:53.613-05:00Comments on Counterlight's Peculiars: The Creation of Christian Art; Constantine and the Creation of the Basilican ChurchUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-38819428671680724392009-08-25T07:20:25.184-04:002009-08-25T07:20:25.184-04:00Thank you rick allen for clarifying that designati...Thank you rick allen for clarifying that designation of "basilica." I've always wondered about it.Counterlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345956180434795401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-78740800059430178562009-08-24T23:16:01.497-04:002009-08-24T23:16:01.497-04:00Once again, a good piece with beautiful illustrati...Once again, a good piece with beautiful illustrations, for which I add my thanks. I might quibble with some of your historical generalization, but I am trying to suppress my quibblicity.<br /><br />I would add that there's another definition of "basilica," a title of honor given to certain significant churches. St. Peter's in Rome is the most well-known example (it isn't the Roman cathedral; that's St. John Lateran). A local example: in the last decade, the Cathedral of St. Francis here in Santa Fe was designated a "basilica" in this latter sense--it was the mother church from which many of the dioceses of the American southwest were generated. <br /><br />Obviously a church so honored may or may not be a basilica in the architectural sense.rick allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07612435616018593956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-17799222673718206002009-08-24T21:59:37.894-04:002009-08-24T21:59:37.894-04:00 Wondeful work, Doug! I had heard the part ab... Wondeful work, Doug! I had heard the part about the basillica design being taken from Rome before, but you've now put pictures to it for me. It was just a trivial piece of information before; now, it's fascinating as I see it unfold.Rick+https://www.blogger.com/profile/03322574092020268536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-28678565015593899722009-08-24T15:09:38.762-04:002009-08-24T15:09:38.762-04:00Yes his mother (who was not Empress Helena, but Wi...Yes his mother (who was not Empress Helena, but Wife Helena, and had been a number girl in a bar) was Christian, Constantine himself apparently not. And that is the pattern through the Ages; the women adopt the new religion, the men (if they are powerful) follow slowly...Göran Koch-Swahnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00925549945659350649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-83213475589583420822009-08-24T08:57:44.878-04:002009-08-24T08:57:44.878-04:00"The Idea that Constantine established the Bi..."The Idea that Constantine established the Bible as a Canon is heard only in America"<br /><br />I hope I didn't suggest that he did. I understand that the Canon was a work in progress into the 7th century. I only wanted to say that he started that process.<br /><br />I'm afraid that I belong to the camp that believes Constantine embraced Christianity for mostly political reasons.<br /><br />You're always welcome Goran. Thanks for reading these and for contributing.Counterlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345956180434795401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-91551855867684098632009-08-24T08:17:53.881-04:002009-08-24T08:17:53.881-04:00Thank you again, dear Counterlight, for this great...Thank you again, dear Counterlight, for this great learning occasion!Göran Koch-Swahnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00925549945659350649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-85131709568147762892009-08-24T08:05:07.866-04:002009-08-24T08:05:07.866-04:00I wonder if the use of Christianity as a unifying ...I wonder if the use of Christianity as a unifying means was not an afterthought… <br /><br />Likeways it seems that there were no Bibles yet (the Codex Vaticanus seems to have been among the first, closely followed by the, somewhat different, Codex Sinaiticus), that they too was a product of a need/use for unity in State and Religion. <br /><br />Remember that to Rome they were the same (and in all later State theory/ideology… The nescessitas of unity was a never questioned dogma. <br /><br />The Idea that Constantine established the Bible as a Canon is heard only in America – 20th century American Integrism, to me. The concept of Canonical is in my mind very late. <br /><br />More on my Blog about this.Göran Koch-Swahnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00925549945659350649noreply@blogger.com