tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post7566720997854633010..comments2024-02-11T03:50:53.613-05:00Comments on Counterlight's Peculiars: Princes of the ChurchUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-46184524288125134282009-11-13T05:55:29.081-05:002009-11-13T05:55:29.081-05:00I am not one to dislike a bit of decorum, but thes...I am not one to dislike a bit of decorum, but these aare very little guys with issues. Redikkulus!Göran Koch-Swahnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00925549945659350649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-14607029380816481352009-11-12T21:03:17.070-05:002009-11-12T21:03:17.070-05:00Re your BBC link, Leonardo, if John XXIII was trul...Re your BBC link, Leonardo, if John XXIII was truly in good condition when he was exhumed it must indeed have been a miracle, because, like Pius XII & Paul VI, before and after him, he was visibly decaying (see contemporary shots in <b>Life</b>) by the close of his funeral ceremonies. <br /><br />His coronation was the last one at which flax was ceremonially burned three times in a candle flame in front of the new pope with the warning <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEk4D5cnNls" rel="nofollow"><i>"Sic transit gloria mundi"</i></a>.Lapinbizarrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07686990585795363001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-79013346987000084732009-11-12T20:43:40.349-05:002009-11-12T20:43:40.349-05:00¨In 2001, he was placed on display in a glass coff...¨In 2001, he was placed on display in a glass coffin in St Peter's, during a mass conducted by Pope John Paul II.<br /><br />The space the older pope vacated in the crypt beneath the basilica will soon be occupied by the younger man who oversaw that very mass.¨<br /><br />I thought I was losing it...I knew I saw him in a glass coffin at St. Peters and liked seeing him and I knew I saw Pope Pius XII (only a free standing gigantic sculpture) and freaked out!<br /><br />Whew (and I haven´t had a drink for 30+ years)!<br /><br />http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4417155.stmLeonardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16667415590825321701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-6172872546175856252009-11-12T18:21:05.420-05:002009-11-12T18:21:05.420-05:00"I suppose this sort of thing is inevitable. ..."I suppose this sort of thing is inevitable. The Church will resume its old role of spiritual buttress of the State and the Established order."<br /><br /><br />ohhhhhhhh... gawd.... you're probably right.it's margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13577280471100732619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-77700165227316247682009-11-12T17:49:39.850-05:002009-11-12T17:49:39.850-05:00I haven't been to Rome since John XXIII was mo...I haven't been to Rome since John XXIII was moved. I remember when his was the second tomb I saw when I entered the grotto under the floor of Saint Pete's. The first was Pio Dodicesimo. I remember that John's was covered with flowers and candles, and the other papal tombs were bare. I had heard stories that Pope John was a little harder to find now that he had been moved, but I could be wrong.<br /><br />Hannah Arendt was a big fan of Pope John. She wrote an essay on the occasion of his coronation called "At Last, A Christian on the Throne of Peter." She told a story about him in which he overheard a group of construction workers in St. Peter's arguing and swearing loudly. He walked up to them and said, "Gentlemen please! Why can't you just say 'shit' like everyone else around here?"Counterlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345956180434795401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-24678721928251631112009-11-12T17:26:01.472-05:002009-11-12T17:26:01.472-05:00Are you certain he´s been banished? I saw him in ...Are you certain he´s been banished? I saw him in a glass coffin in the nave at St. Peters a few years ago...I always liked the man and was very moved seeing him right there in front of me (unexpectantly)...within moments I also saw a gigantic statue of a floor length/vertical standing and robed Pope Pius XII staring over his should at me...freaked me out...when I was a kid he always scared me during the Blk and White Newsreals as he was shown being hauled about on a litter (apparently alive)...never did like that guy gave me the creeps (later I learned more about him and liked him less)...a shudder at Pius XII and a warm hearted greeting for John XXIII...amen.Leonardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16667415590825321701noreply@blogger.com