tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post2475374973304710446..comments2024-02-11T03:50:53.613-05:00Comments on Counterlight's Peculiars: Dan Savage is RightUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-14390386707202435402012-12-14T08:13:34.733-05:002012-12-14T08:13:34.733-05:00Dan Savage may be an "anti-theist," but ...Dan Savage may be an "anti-theist," but he does want to be fair to us and to keep our friendship. And let's face it, among gay and lesbian folk, his is the majority point of view on matters of religion. Counterlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345956180434795401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-52865340378830184822012-12-14T06:31:40.192-05:002012-12-14T06:31:40.192-05:00WWJD?
The point is Jesus would do, which liberals...WWJD?<br /><br />The point is Jesus would <i>do</i>, which liberals <i>don't</i> because I'm not sure they believe in what they profess. If they did, they would act, even if it were in conflict with the need to feel good about themselves.MarkBrunsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16971990948866488080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-54802904106364665442012-12-14T03:05:29.200-05:002012-12-14T03:05:29.200-05:00[Pardon, I'm going off-topic, simply because M...[Pardon, I'm going off-topic, simply because Mark has raised a compelling question. And I'm really not a fan of Savage's bog-standard anti-theism these days (though congrats, of course, on his & Terry's marriage!)]<br /><br />"non-violence is useless if it takes no responsibility for defending others"<br /><br />That's always been the dilemma (or perhaps better, the <i>crux</i> of the matter).<br /><br />You have two competing Goods: non-violence, and (weaker) Other-defense. The solution some have found to this issue, is the (*voluntary*) human shield. But it can be highly impractical---especially compared w/ pushing a button and launching a drone strike!<br /><br />I've been thinking about Christian non-violence actively for over 30 years now. I don't have many answers, but I'll keep raising the questions. As a member of the "Christian Left", it's the least I can do. WWJD?JCFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14516376500318551838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-36223614899656080252012-12-14T02:17:44.659-05:002012-12-14T02:17:44.659-05:00I struggle every day for my spiritual well-being w...I struggle every day for my spiritual well-being with a me that would solve the problem in a terminal way. MarkBrunsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16971990948866488080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-5295507931771273492012-12-14T02:16:41.319-05:002012-12-14T02:16:41.319-05:00You have to have the courage to be the bad guy to ...You have to have the courage to be the bad guy to someone, or you are just words, your convictions mere intellectual assent. I struggle constantly with a me that would solve the problem in a very terminal way for my own spiritual well-being. However . . . niceness is a lack of will and conviction, and non-violence is useless if it takes no responsibility for defending others. If I'm not willing to sacrifice even my spiritual well-being to do what is right and just, then I am just words. Jesus became a hated criminal, disappointed His disciples, sacrificed much of the religious "wisdom" of His time to do what was right. MarkBrunsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16971990948866488080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-54202512926848835422012-12-14T00:12:17.522-05:002012-12-14T00:12:17.522-05:00--and I'm not at all puny.--and I'm not at all puny.it's margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13577280471100732619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-9878879022276705772012-12-14T00:11:47.061-05:002012-12-14T00:11:47.061-05:00I'm in.I'm in.it's margarethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13577280471100732619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-80071200449250995652012-12-13T20:37:46.901-05:002012-12-13T20:37:46.901-05:00Dan Savage never met you, me, or Len.Dan Savage never met you, me, or Len.Counterlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345956180434795401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-26877672372796061982012-12-13T20:13:12.235-05:002012-12-13T20:13:12.235-05:00So how would you and Len and me go about being les...So how would you and Len and me go about being less puny?June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2343439372519556254.post-69564181485098480562012-12-13T19:27:57.215-05:002012-12-13T19:27:57.215-05:00Then we agree.Then we agree.Leonardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16667415590825321701noreply@blogger.com